In line with these visionary instruments, the LinnStrument runs circles around its more run-of-the mill peers. At this point, the LinnStrument developers aren’t interested in even maintaining this feature if we successfully implemented it. That makes slides terribly hard to perform, especially if we're talking about sliding a chord. The LEDs under the pads are really handy for knowing which keys to hit in a scale. What is MPE and why it matters so much? He generously spent time with me on his LinnStrument, testing not only Animoog (which at the time didn’t support MIDI MPE) but also let me test how it feels to actually play  on the LinnStrument. It is an extremely capable synth that perfectly compliments the Seaboards. Official Animoog Forum Enjoy the holiday break Steffen — Alex / Satri :-), Your email address will not be published. Or if you're a programmer, you could also just download the firmware and change the feature you want yourself, then flash it on the device via usb. vibratos and slides are easy to perform), but the sound sculpting feels a little less controllable, simply because the cells are rather small and there's little room to perform gestures within them. Totally behind you on this. My recent discussions with the main LinnStrument firmware developer highlighted the following: “there are physical spacers between the rows of LinnStrument that prevent smooth transitions across cells in the vertical axis.” Despite this limitation, I still foresee this LinnStrument keys layout as valuable and being a useful way to play Animoog on it, similar to how we can configure Animoog’s keys on the iPad. I think the Linnstrument is almost certainly better value. i cannot figure out why this bad behavior, a such limitation in a professional priced device. As far as I know, this has still not been implemented (I contacted them over a year ago). The Sonic Lab video below will show this to you. Also, Roli's equator synth is pretty awesome but still missing a proper method for importing user samples (you can do it if you have lots of patience or perhaps really swiftly with basic programming) If I could have both I would love to have a Linnstrument 128, you get a lot of great features like an on-board sequencer along with a ton of cool customization options and the expressive MPE midi. I have seen videos on linnstrument and it seems to me that it looks awkward to play? I don't think it would be difficult to transfer my guitar skills over, because I recognize the intervals and notes on a piano. It would be great if Studio One could play, record and edit MIDI release velocity. So now you might think "Well, okay, so it has a ton of settings, but it doesn't even have a screen, so it must be really convoluted and hard to set up". I contacted them with something that is a rather simple fix as well as an obvious oversight on their part: The Seaboard doesn't send a pressure=0 message when you let go of a key. I didn't buy the Rise to help me play "real sounding" instruments more expressively. Unlike a standard MIDI keyboard, LinnStrument senses your fingers’ subtle movements in five dimensions, enabling musical performance expression rivaling that of fine acoustic instruments. The documentation is inadequate and I can't make sense of some of the behavior of the Equator synth. I only realized a couple of days later, that the guy at the Haken booth was probably the guy himself. You’ll learn a lot more in this previous post a year ago about MIDI MPE’s development and its technical specification. Restrike alone is a game changer. With LinnStrument, Roli Seaboard, Haken Continuum, the Eigenharp and others, the musician can readily add natural sounding vibrato, pitch bends, and changes in timbre through micron level movements of fingers. Free shipping to most countries. The bigger problem is the layout itself: A piano isn't made for sliding - there's far too many irregularities within the layout to perform a proper slide. I went as far as creating this little explanation of what I was looking for. Like I understand the efficiency of the grid and the possibilities it gives, but I see fingers looking squished when I see videos of ppl playing on it. And be happy, thanks to Moog developers, Animoog now supports it! I tried the seabord rise and I can tell you that if you don’t know how to play piano you’re going to have a bad time learning to play the seaboard. That’s how I met with the wonderful Nathanaël last April. One could dare think this keyboard came to existence to be Animoog’s companion. However, I will say that this is the single most confusing thing about the Seaboard: Clearly, it has been made with sliding in mind, but it's horribly awkward to perform proper slides on it. Can confirm: Roger Lynn is a customer service God. Pitch slides are easily performed on the LinnStrument’s x-axis. posted May ... Have you looked at the LinnStrument? Official Animoog Facebook page After it didn't work out very well for about a year, I got a linnstrument and it was just better in every single aspect of it. On the Linnstrument, it's easy. The keywaves make glissandos bumpy. The good news is that the LinnStrument firmware is open source, anyone can modify the LinnStrument’s software. I don't have opportunity to try the linnstrument however. I don't know how he does it but he really is the best, most genuine person. If you haven’t seen the ROLI Seaboard yet, I’m glad you’re reading this. You can purposefully play only on the upper part of the keyboard rather than having to bend up each time on the Linnstrument. The Seaboard feels like an industrial design piece to me, while the Linnstrument feels like an instrument. Fellow linnstrument owner here. This is accurate, but perhaps the most important difference is not stated. If at the end everyone agrees that the feature should be implemented and it's not a big thing, it gets implemented quickly. The ‘core MIDI specification’ wasn’t built to handle multiple dimensions per note. The ROLI Seaboard has the scales physically locked to the piano scale, meaning my main reticence to adopt the LinnStrument is also valid for the Seaboard. Go figure. Ok, but how does this the ROLI Seaboard sounds with Animoog? Haken Continuum vs Roli Seaboard. I already mentioned the nice intonation support on the Linnstrument, but that's only the very beginning. Ha! And the splits! But don’t stop yourself at my sentiment regarding this feature absent from the LinnStrument, the LinnStrument is clearly an excellent alternative controller and it usually pleases bass and guitar players because of its keys layout, Gaz Williams explains why in his extensive review. Great people on both sides: the Roli guys even told me where I can try the Linnstrument (Bitwig booth, also very nice guys)....anyway, back to the topic before I have to mention everybody I … It's amazing using it for pads, drones, atmospheres and granular sampled stuff too. SWAM Woodwinds v2.8 - User Manual – rev. I am gonna see if i can try the seaboard in my music store. Expect more and more controllers and apps to support MIDI MPE over time. Layout: Here's where the Linnstrument shines. The LinnStrument also happens to be built and played by incredibly friendly people! We’re very lucky, Steffen Presley, the sound designer who created the Song Haven pack of presets for Animoog, recorded the following video showcasing Animoog on the ROLI Seaboard Grand. They really are beautiful to play. After trying the LinnStrument last April, there’s one question I asked the LinnStrument developers: can we select playable notes ourselves, just like we can select which Animoog keys show up on the iPad? (I haven’t tried the morph or joue, but pressure is waaay more playable on the seaboard block than on eg KMI quneo and kboard.) The most important options are there, but I found it lacking in some areas (such as channel configuration, you can only set a range and the first channel of that range is always the master channel). Honestly though. Roger Linn, the famed creator of the Linn Drum and the MPC, has unveiled a prototype of a new musical instrument. The one thing the Seaboard got right was the surface for sound sculpting. So, the pieces of the puzzle may finally be in place. It's a very cool experience and the gestures feel more meaningful and controllable, simply because there's more space to perform them, both in the y- and the z-axis (as you can actually press into the key). like i see people playing it, and it looks very awkward and tight. Required fields are marked *, Official Animoog webpage It is also known as ‘Expressive MIDI’. Take a look at the neck of a bass guitar- it’s a grid, similar to the Linnstrument, Push, Luanchpad etc. Steffen Presley also warns us that playing micro-tonally, which was possible on the GRAND but never the RISE, is not an option anymore. As I said, I was sort of happy with it and there are videos on the web that show it used to great effect in a musical context. Many of these features are also found on one or the other of the various keyboards I discussed above, but the LinnStrument is conveniently small, and more affordable than many others—couple that with Roger Linn’s reputation for innovation, and it could prove to be a winner. In literally everything else, the Linnstrument just wins straight out. Hi Alex! MIDI Polyphonic Expression – or MPE – is a method of using MIDI which enables multidimensional devices like the Seaboard and BLOCKS to control multiple parameters of every note within MPE-compatible software. Sonic Lab just released a 22-minutes video review of the Linnstrument, and guess what, it extensively features Animoog! They really screwed us on that one. As a guitarist, I'm finding the LinnStrument to be a pretty amazing controller, especially paired with the SWAM instruments. I got a Seaboard Rise and Grand and I absolutely love mine but I come from a keyboard playing background. I was sort of happy with the Seaboard when I first got it and worked through the numerous frustrations of learning to play it and make it work within my setup. So much so that I've never read the manual. Do you find u r able to play it like a piano? I would also be interested to hear what people think about the haken continuum compared to these instruments. the pitchbend of the montage is stepped, this default is even more obvious when you use an external controller for gliding the beast. And it works in any position, unlike on a keyboard. And I still feel like there's a lot of things I still wanted to say. No problem, literally takes three button presses to reconfigure the linnstrument and it will work amazingly well with that non-mpe device. It has silicon tactile pressure sensing and is MPE so is like the roli which was like linnstrument and nothing like a touch screen (not getting into linnstrument vs roli approaches obv just vs the ticyhscreen as I’m not sure if you saw the silicon) I was surprised to see how well thought out it was when I was watching videos on the linnstrument. The big selling point, though, is the guy who designed it: Roger Linn. Well... Configuration: It's ridiculous how easy to configure the linnstrument is. Dimensions in Animoog? Whenever you wonder about whether it can do something you currently need for a performance, chances are very good that it can in fact already do that and allows you to configure it on the device in seconds. I haven’t found a comparison of the RISE and its bigger brother the Seaboard GRAND, but the GRAND features more inputs and outputs and has different keywaves. I thought of crowdfunding this feature with Bountysource for everyone to benefit from it. Thank you so much for the detailed response. Intonation: How easy is it to hit a note on them (if it matters, I've got about 10 years of piano practice - mostly jazz, some classical - and 15 years of guitar practice, so I am very familiar with both layouts and am very used to learning new instruments) On the Seaboard, it is really hard. If I’m not mistaken, it also enables better means to record Animoog performances over MIDI (I haven’t made experimentations myself yet, but I plan to — and of course, I’ll publish my findings on this very site). I'm sure there's some well-meaning developers somewhere down the chain, but the final product doesn't really reflect it. I also notice that seaboard is much more popular with much more people using it to play covers of songs and such. The first thing to note is that the material makes it somewhat hard to slide around in the first place, as the silicon/rubbery surface clings to your fingers a bit. Pressure works well enough, but the "slide"-axis is sort of hard to get right in such a tight space. The LinnStrument is one of a handful of electronic controllers, like the ROLI Seaboard and Haken Continuum, whose expressiveness goes way beyond a standard keyboard. Roger Linn Design’s LinnStrument takes a more pad-oriented approach and arranges these pads as a matrix that allows fretted instrument players to feel at home. And now I really am out of space, so I’ll quickly wrap up.. Wrapping up this article, you might want to revisit this June 2015 article named Alternative Controllers for Animoog and the few posts on custom Animoog controllers. Everything when it comes for Animoog to support sophisticated MIDI controllers. It's been made to be immediately musical and you can tell that the people working on it care deeply about the user experience and the musicality of their device. Combined with Animoog, the most popular iPad synth, there’s certainly lots of wonderful explorations ahead! I think its more about getting my hands to adapt to a keyboard playing style that is difficult but definitely not impossible. The Seaboard by ROLI and the LinnStrument by Roger Linn are also supported, and there are specific Default presets for them too. Top. 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The guitar-like layout of stacking fourths horizontally makes SO much more sense for an instrument that's sort of made to slide around on. MPE is a new specification based on MIDI, the universal protocol for electronic music. the benefit of the linnstrument is the ability to tune it in other ways such as piano or whatever you want. I have the linnstrument and come from mostly a piano background. This is actually an obscure feature of MIDI that was around since the beginning and there may have been historical reasons why this was not implemented. If you have comments or if some of the info I shared is wrong, let us know in the comments! If you slide into a cell and stop there, your slide will gracefully end exactly on that note, rather than 15 cents off. Almost every option you have is all about programming new ways to play the notes. Why did you sell your seaboard if you dont mind sharing? They answer fast and are very friendly and nice, but don't get you the help you need (as with most customer services of larger companies, we all know that sort of thing). You just have to replace the Midi inputs, which is easy in most cases. Are u a keaboardist by any chance with such training? So many options. I think if you have a lot of time to practice, the Seaboard is a really fun instrument but if you have a background playing guitar you will find that the Linnstrument will feel so much more comfortable to get around when you set the tuning of it to that of a guitar - this re-tuning of the Linnstruments is one of the most powerful aspects of this instrument. I know other players that come from a guitar background and have prefered the format of the Linnstrument as well. ROLI has been on, what you might call, a roll of late, updating both BLOCKS and the NOISE app, as well as the Dashboard software that connects the two. It basically just implies that the pressure is now 0 because it sent a note off message. With the GRAND models, a bank of 64 Equator presets can be created or edited on a computer and then be transferred to the internal sound engine of the Seaboard GRAND, ready for immediate live performance! At every point along the road of learning to play these two instruments, I felt like the Seaboard was actively fighting me while the Linnstrument was helping me in ways I didn't even notice at first. Trying one is the next step for me — despite the fixed scale, will I fall in love with it? However, there's a lot more different styles of play-ability you can get from it. This changes everything. Enthusiastic players could thus implement this features themselves. It's a fully expressive MPE instrument, just like the Seaboard and Linnstrument. Also I'd like to note with how focused design is on playability. This is also a big reason for the price difference. I bought it because of its potential as a sound design tool. Now guess what you do when you have a feature request with the Linnstrument: You either write them a mail or you post on their forum over at kvraudio and what happens next? Yes it seens very well designrd. You get a message directly from Roger Linn himself thanking you for reporting this feature request and engaging in a discussion about how exactly you'd want to use that feature and whether or not there are other options to do what you're to do with the existing features. On the Linnstrument, you can play the music expressively (i.e. The linnstrument looks great, but you have to forget all your left hand skills, and re-learn to play a desk. I feel that's where the familiar layout of a piano on seaboard would be beneficial. The Seaboard on the other hand only lets you configure things within the "dashboard" application that Roli provides you with. Animoog on Wikipedia, Animoog on the LinnStrument and the ROLI Seaboard with Expressive MIDI. I just wanted to say that the linnstrument also looks very awkward to play.

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